“When I was 5 and saw Whitney Houston sing on TV and she just loved it and what she exuded when she sang was just so beautiful—I wanted to feel what that felt like,” Kelly Rowland tells host Cindi Leive in the latest episode of The Barneys Podcast. Not only did Rowland find out what that felt like, but she went from a young girl in the church choir to achieving global success with Destiny’s Child, followed by a dynamic solo career.

In this episode, she brings humor and raw honesty as she discusses her personal journey, which has led her to become an author and vocal champion of self-acceptance. She also breaks down her fierce personal style, including how her love of sunglasses transformed into a collaboration with New York–based eyewear brand Smoke x Mirrors, available at Barneys later this month.

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